PR News
<span id="hs_cos_wrapper_name" class="hs_cos_wrapper hs_cos_wrapper_meta_field hs_cos_wrapper_type_text" style="" data-hs-cos-general-type="meta_field" data-hs-cos-type="text" >Telum Talks To: Elan Shou and Phoebe Shen from Ruder Finn Group</span>

Telum Talks To: Elan Shou and Phoebe Shen from Ruder Finn Group

Telum Media sat down with Elan Shou, CEO of Ruder Finn Asia, and Phoebe Shen, General Manager at RF Thunder, to unpack what it really takes to grow with purpose in the Southeast Asia region, from building genuine local connections to staying ahead of shifting market dynamics.
Why local depth now matters more than ever
The region’s economic growth, demographic potential, and evolving media landscape are reshaping how agencies approach their strategies and operations. For communications firms like Ruder Finn, this means a fundamental shift from managing remotely to embedding deeply within local markets.

Elan explains the drivers behind this change, “If you look at GDP growth, Southeast Asia’s markets have remained strong over the past several years. For 2025, the six key Southeast Asia countries are expected to grow between 4.5 to 4.7 per cent, significantly ahead of developed countries like those in Europe. The market size is another factor, as Indonesia is huge, Malaysia has a large population, and overall, these markets have huge growth potential.” 

The region’s appeal goes beyond numbers. Elan points out that for many Chinese brands expanding abroad, Southeast Asia is a natural first stop. “It’s culturally familiar, geographically close, and home to many Chinese communities,” she says. This is reflected in Ruder Finn’s own experience, with its ‘Chinese Brand Going Abroad’ (CBGA) practice that has tripled in size over the past three years.

However, she warned against treating the region as a single entity. “Southeast Asia is a highly diverse region, with different languages, religions, market sizes, policies, and political contexts. You can’t approach it with one uniform strategy. You need local knowledge and insight.”

Phoebe echoed the sentiment, noting that the CBGA practice has been a key driver of growth. She describes their approach as a ‘one plus one plus one’ modular model - a China-based team, a Singapore hub to coordinate with Chinese clients and connect markets, and local partners who bring essential cultural fluency.

“Previously, without those local partnerships, strategies sometimes fell flat in-market. Now, involving local expertise from the start ensures relevance,” Phoebe said. “Managing from afar no longer works - we need close management and local investment.”

Evolving client expectations
Just five years ago, Southeast Asia was still considered a secondary priority compared to the Chinese market. Today, that perception has flipped with multinational corporations increasingly allocating resources and attention to the region, driven by growing consumer markets and geopolitical shifts like the US-China conflict. 

Elan describes this transition: “The ‘helicopter approach’ doesn’t work here. Success depends on local knowledge, insight, and strong networks. Understanding local languages, emotions, and culture are essential.” 

She also observed the rapid rise in the quality of local agencies. “Having judged various awards across Asia Pacific, I’m impressed by their quality and speed of improvement. Many local teams were trained by international agencies and are now excelling independently. This creates a more competitive landscape, requiring international agencies to raise their game.”

Phoebe, who relocated to Singapore three years ago, sees client needs evolving alongside market complexities. "Chinese clients increasingly ask for pre-entry market validation, reputation scanning, deeper localisation of content, and access to relevant local resources. In today’s fragmented media environment, reputation management is also a top request.”

Rethinking the agency model
As client expectations grow more sophisticated and regionally nuanced, agencies are being pushed to adapt - not just in services, but in structure. Historically, many international agencies in Southeast Asia operated from Singapore, setting a regional strategy from there. But that model is shifting. “In the past year, some MNCs have moved their headquarters to other countries, like Malaysia, because a Singapore-led strategy might not suit every market,” said Elan.

Looking ahead, she expects to see more country-specific strategies, which will raise expectations for local operations. “Agencies can’t just implement - they need to think and create,” she said. “Especially in consumer sectors, integrated marketing is highly market-driven and culturally oriented. Agencies must be more locally driven, even while operating at a regional scale.”

For Chinese brands, Phoebe noted, the organisational model is also evolving. "Typically, their China HQ drives vision and strategy, regional offices balance global direction with local relevance, and in-market teams execute but often need more strategic clarity. Our modular team structure mirrors this - integrating local insights into strategic planning from the start. This saves clients time and coordination costs.”

The shifting agency - media dynamics
As agencies localise their strategies and deepen their role in brand building, they are also navigating a fast-changing media ecosystem. The media landscape has changed dramatically - from traditional media to KOLs, now to KOCs. Elan emphasises the need for agencies to stay ahead of their clients in offering creative, integrated media solutions. “It’s an interactive, ever-learning process,” she says. “Sometimes clients are even ahead of agencies.”

Phoebe pointed out that media relationships in Southeast Asia are both platform-driven and trust-based. “Chinese brands often assume they can apply the same media playbook used in China, which doesn’t work here,” she said.

Looking ahead
As the communications landscape in Southeast Asia continues to evolve, Elan and Phoebe anticipate a more competitive, sophisticated communications ecosystem on the horizon. “I expect more strong local agencies and mature, creative communications professionals,” said Elan. “For example, at Ruder Finn, we’re exploring how AI can improve efficiency, freeing up time for more intelligent, creative work. The goal is to lay the foundation for communications so we can focus on high-value activities.”

For Phoebe, one of the most important shifts lies in how Chinese brands are perceived globally. “Every CBGA contributes to shaping Brand China’s global image,” she explains. “We hope to move perceptions beyond just ‘value for money,’ toward being seen as innovative, collaborative, and responsible.”

That evolution, she emphasises, requires more than just good messaging. “It means helping clients become contributors to local societies, not just foreign companies selling products.”

Previous story

Noor Bahman steps up at agency

Next story

Hapag-Lloyd AG onboards ME and emerging markets comms head

You might also enjoy

PixVerse
Moves

PixVerse appoints Head of Global PR

Robyn Tan has been named Head of Global PR at PixVerse, an AI video generation platform. Based in Singapore, she leads PR and media relations across international markets, and serves as Chief Representative of Singapore, overseeing on-ground presence and community relations in the region. 

Sefiani
Research

Sefiani unveils new research on AI visibility ownership

Strategic communications consultancy, Sefiani, part of Clarity Global, has released a new study indicating that 84 per cent of Australian marketing and comms leaders disagree on who "owns" AI visibility, while the remaining 16 per cent take an integrated approach.

Conducted by OnePoll on behalf of Sefiani, the research surveyed 150 marketing and communications leaders at Director level and above from organisations with more than 50 employees, exploring how strategies have been adapted in response to AI search.

According to the report, 91 per cent of cross-departmental leaders are revising their strategies to influence AI-driven discovery, although an internal "turf war" is emerging over who controls brands' AI search visibility. The research found that ownership currently sits across five functions: data / analytics (23 per cent), comms / corporate affairs (20 per cent), brand (19 per cent), digital (17 per cent), and performance (16 per cent), which the agency said reflects a structurally fragmented approach within many organisations.

The "silo" challenge
To complement its findings, Sefiani collected qualitative insights from leaders through a series of executive GEO-focused sessions and a recent panel moderated by Mandy Galmes, Managing Partner at Sefiani. Speakers included Johanna Lowe, Chief Marketing and Communications Officer at the University of Sydney; Brad Pogson, Head of Communications at Lendi Group; and Tom Telford, Chief Digital Officer at Clarity Global.

Based on these discussions, several themes emerged around managing reputation in AI-driven environments:

  • Internal silos as a key barrier: Participants noted that while some leaders are encouraging cross-functional experimentation, others remain 'nihilistic' about breaking down traditional departmental walls, leading to stalled effort and wasted budgets. The panel identified the rise of AI as a 'shadow task' layered on top of existing senior role requirements without removing previous duties, which further delays progress.
  • The forever life of reputational issues: According to panellists, LLMs draw on long-term patterns across coverage, reviews, forums, and owned content, meaning historic issues may continue resurfacing in AI-generated responses. This suggests that organisations might need to take a more data-led, cross-channel approach to finding, correcting, and rebalancing inaccurate information.
  • Quality content remains critical: Insights from the discussion indicated that AI models do not discriminate by content format, but they do reward depth. The findings suggest that high-quality, thought leadership content performs better within LLM training sets, so it should be considered as central to strategies across channels moving forward.

The cost of siloed GEO: Misinformation and reputational risk
The agency stated that a lack of clear ownership over GEO is already having tangible consequences. Based on the research, AI search was cited by leaders as the most structurally siloed channel, with 77 per cent reporting problems in the last 12 months. This included a slower response to issues, conflicting messages across channels, and AI tools amplifying yesterday's problems instead of today's narratives.

The study also found that the risk is compounded by the speed at which AI-generated misinformation can spread, with 25 per cent of leaders reporting that incorrect, inconsistent, or outdated brand information has already appeared in AI answers.

"Reputation used to be managed channel by channel, but AI search has changed the rules. Because these systems read across everything - earned coverage, on-site content, social signals, and search authority - siloed marketing and communications are quietly muting your AI visibility," said Tom Telford.

"When your channels don't tell the same story, or teams are chasing independent KPIs with separate budget pots, these silos also become a major reputational liability. It is only when functions are truly connected that the models become trained on a consistent brand message and compound visibility across AI services over time. This is the crux of GEO, Generative Engine Optimisation, and done well it becomes the multiplier on everything you already invest in brand, PR and digital."

The "citations race": PR and earned media take centre stage
The report also suggested that a shift toward AI-first discovery is changing budget priorities.

According to the findings, 49 per cent of leaders have already allocated five to 10 per cent of their marketing and communications budgets to AI visibility, with 90 per cent of that spend being reallocated from traditional channels like paid digital and brand. A further 30 per cent reported allocating up to 20 per cent of their budgets.

Citing external analysis from Gartner, the agency noted that the majority of sources referenced by AI systems are non-paid, which the report argues increases the strategic importance of PR and earned media in AI-driven discovery.

Mandy Galmes said: "When LLMs answer a question in your category, they’re drawing overwhelmingly on non-paid, third party sources. If your spokespeople, experts, case studies and proof points aren’t in those sources, you’re invisible at a key moment in the buyer journey." 

Royal
Moves

Royal Plaza on Scotts names marcomms director

Irwin Lim has been appointed Director of Marketing Communications at Royal Plaza on Scotts. In this role, he oversees brand, communications, content, campaigns, media relations, and marketing initiatives across the hotel’s key business areas.

Most recently, Irwin was Director of Marketing at Pan Pacific Orchard, Singapore.