PR News
Rebecca Jarvie-Gibbs

Telum Talks To: Rebecca Jarvie-Gibbs from Example

In an industry built on agility, speed, and client demands, the line between ambition and exhaustion can be razor-thin. For PR and communications professionals, being constantly "on" has long been framed as a marker of success. But a growing discourse is pushing back, advocating for a shift from toxic hustle to an intentional and sustainable "healthy" hustle, with the focus on clarity, energy, and systems that enable professionals to thrive without burning out.

Telum Media spoke with Rebecca Jarvie-Gibbs, Co-Founder and COO of Example, on what it means to reject performative busyness and embrace balance as a badge of honour. Rebecca recently launched her own podcast, Fine Form, which explores the realities of hustle culture and shares candid insights from her journey through burnout and recovery.

From redefining productivity and reducing friction to modelling sustainable leadership, her reflections provide a roadmap for PR and comms professionals eager to reclaim personal time, protect their energy, and pursue success on their own terms.

What did your own experience with overwork teach you, and when did you first start rethinking what success should look like?
I believe work often reflects what we haven't yet resolved in ourselves. When you're unclear about who you are, the job quickly steps in to define it - offering validation, identity, a sense of worth. That's when ambition shifts.

Instead of being yours to guide you forward, it becomes tethered to external markers - titles, client counts, or how busy you look. On the surface, it may appear impressive, but inside it feels very different.

My turning point came when full-blown burnout collided with the birth of my son - I felt utterly trapped in a cage of my own making. From a dark and uncertain place, I began to rebuild by doing two things. First, I got really clear on how I wanted my work to feel, not just how it looked. And second, I confronted the toxic behaviours I'd adopted around work and made big changes in how I showed up for myself each day.

You've spoken about rejecting toxic hustle. How would you define a "healthy hustle," and what might that balance look like for someone working in PR?
For me, it all comes down to energy - something either gives it to you or takes it away. I still believe in hard work; building a career or life you want takes discipline and focus. But there's a difference between feeling tired yet satisfied, and feeling constantly tired and empty. One feels like effort with momentum, the other feels like effort slammed up against a wall.

My idea of balance may not be the same as someone else's, but the key is clarity. As you move through a period of work, ask yourself: is this exciting me, expanding me, or just exhausting me? A simple way to check is by keeping a "drain vs gain" tracker for a week. If something consistently drains you, it's probably a good time to stop chasing it.

I also think of work in terms of spikes and stretches. There are spikes of intensity - a big pitch, launch, or campaign - that can be energising and exhilarating. But they have to be balanced with stretches of recovery, reflection and recalibration. When the spikes start to feel like the rule instead of the exception, that's when burnout creeps in.

Ultimately, I believe that a healthy hustle is rooted in what I like to call 'professional resonance' - when your ambition is grounded in clear values and sustained by simple, energising habits.

When you look at the PR and communications industry today, do you see a shift in working styles - particularly with younger professionals prioritising wellness, balance, and flexibility - or are we still a long way from breaking free of hustle culture?
I think a lot of people talk about wellness and balance, but don't really know what that actually looks like in practice. And so without realising it, they build habits that actively prevent those things from happening and allow huge amounts of friction into their day - unclear priorities, reactive communication, SO many meetings - and wonder why they feel overwhelmed.

I then see it play out in two main ways. On one side, people disconnect completely. They play it safe, avoid pushing themselves, and end up struggling with a lack of purpose. On the other, they fall into martyrdom, become addicted to the stress and exhaustion and justify doing a lot as if it's the only way to succeed. I've been there, and it's a dangerous place to stay.

For me, the real shift comes when you take ownership of the friction. Burnout doesn’t just "happen" to us - it's the accumulation of habits and systems that we tolerate. Without clarity on how you're working and what you're working toward, it's easy to get swept into a cycle where busyness replaces progress, and wellness remains a buzz word rather than a lived practice.

PR often rewards being busy - but busyness doesn’t always equal progress. How do you personally tell the difference, and what habits or approaches have helped you shift towards real productivity?
I think PR actually rewards agility and creativity, but too often people conflate that with being busy and stretched. One of the great things about our industry is the speed at which you can influence news and culture, and the energy that comes from delivering impactful work and building strong relationships. But you can't be agile when your diary is crammed with back-to-back meetings, and you can't be creative when you're stuck in a perpetual loop of clearing your inbox.

For me, the two biggest habit shifts came down to reducing friction and changing how I communicate. Reducing friction means designing your day so fewer things feel unnecessarily hard - cutting out recurring stress points like clunky processes, mismatched meeting rhythms and unrealistic schedules.

Changing communication meant breaking the cycle of urgency and reactivity. For years, I thought being constantly available and instantly responsive was proof of competence. In reality, it kept me in a constant state of distraction. Now, I don't reply to emails on my phone and I avoid responding in the heat of the moment - because rushed replies made in a heightened state are almost always the ones I regret.

As an agency leader yourself, how do you put these ideas into practice within your own team? And what lessons could other senior leaders take from your approach to building a productive but sustainable culture?
First and foremost, I live it. There's no point talking about balance if you’re still leading from a place of urgency. Panic breeds panic. If you show up constantly spinning plates and stretched thin, the team will think that's what leadership looks like.

It is absolutely crazy to me now that I once thought being a busy leader with a crammed diary and no time to think was inspiring. In reality, it only modelled unsustainable behaviour.

I also used to take on my team's stress, going into overdrive to solve their problems or take work off them. Of course, some things are mine to manage - the resourcing we have, the clients we work with, the timelines we commit to. But how someone chooses to work is ultimately on them. Being clear on what sits in their control and what doesn't has been an important shift.

Ultimately as a leader, you set the tone, so if you remove constant friction, protect energy and model alignment, you give your team permission to do the same.

Previous story

Virginie Cosentino takes up promotion as Business Director

Next story

The Natural Resources Defense Council bolsters comms with new hire

You might also enjoy

Sefiani
Research

Sefiani unveils new research on AI visibility ownership

Strategic communications consultancy, Sefiani, part of Clarity Global, has released a new study indicating that 84 per cent of Australian marketing and comms leaders disagree on who "owns" AI visibility, while the remaining 16 per cent take an integrated approach.

Conducted by OnePoll on behalf of Sefiani, the research surveyed 150 marketing and communications leaders at Director level and above from organisations with more than 50 employees, exploring how strategies have been adapted in response to AI search.

According to the report, 91 per cent of cross-departmental leaders are revising their strategies to influence AI-driven discovery, although an internal "turf war" is emerging over who controls brands' AI search visibility. The research found that ownership currently sits across five functions: data / analytics (23 per cent), comms / corporate affairs (20 per cent), brand (19 per cent), digital (17 per cent), and performance (16 per cent), which the agency said reflects a structurally fragmented approach within many organisations.

The "silo" challenge
To complement its findings, Sefiani collected qualitative insights from leaders through a series of executive GEO-focused sessions and a recent panel moderated by Mandy Galmes, Managing Partner at Sefiani. Speakers included Johanna Lowe, Chief Marketing and Communications Officer at the University of Sydney; Brad Pogson, Head of Communications at Lendi Group; and Tom Telford, Chief Digital Officer at Clarity Global.

Based on these discussions, several themes emerged around managing reputation in AI-driven environments:

  • Internal silos as a key barrier: Participants noted that while some leaders are encouraging cross-functional experimentation, others remain 'nihilistic' about breaking down traditional departmental walls, leading to stalled effort and wasted budgets. The panel identified the rise of AI as a 'shadow task' layered on top of existing senior role requirements without removing previous duties, which further delays progress.
  • The forever life of reputational issues: According to panellists, LLMs draw on long-term patterns across coverage, reviews, forums, and owned content, meaning historic issues may continue resurfacing in AI-generated responses. This suggests that organisations might need to take a more data-led, cross-channel approach to finding, correcting, and rebalancing inaccurate information.
  • Quality content remains critical: Insights from the discussion indicated that AI models do not discriminate by content format, but they do reward depth. The findings suggest that high-quality, thought leadership content performs better within LLM training sets, so it should be considered as central to strategies across channels moving forward.

The cost of siloed GEO: Misinformation and reputational risk
The agency stated that a lack of clear ownership over GEO is already having tangible consequences. Based on the research, AI search was cited by leaders as the most structurally siloed channel, with 77 per cent reporting problems in the last 12 months. This included a slower response to issues, conflicting messages across channels, and AI tools amplifying yesterday's problems instead of today's narratives.

The study also found that the risk is compounded by the speed at which AI-generated misinformation can spread, with 25 per cent of leaders reporting that incorrect, inconsistent, or outdated brand information has already appeared in AI answers.

"Reputation used to be managed channel by channel, but AI search has changed the rules. Because these systems read across everything - earned coverage, on-site content, social signals, and search authority - siloed marketing and communications are quietly muting your AI visibility," said Tom Telford.

"When your channels don't tell the same story, or teams are chasing independent KPIs with separate budget pots, these silos also become a major reputational liability. It is only when functions are truly connected that the models become trained on a consistent brand message and compound visibility across AI services over time. This is the crux of GEO, Generative Engine Optimisation, and done well it becomes the multiplier on everything you already invest in brand, PR and digital."

The "citations race": PR and earned media take centre stage
The report also suggested that a shift toward AI-first discovery is changing budget priorities.

According to the findings, 49 per cent of leaders have already allocated five to 10 per cent of their marketing and communications budgets to AI visibility, with 90 per cent of that spend being reallocated from traditional channels like paid digital and brand. A further 30 per cent reported allocating up to 20 per cent of their budgets.

Citing external analysis from Gartner, the agency noted that the majority of sources referenced by AI systems are non-paid, which the report argues increases the strategic importance of PR and earned media in AI-driven discovery.

Mandy Galmes said: "When LLMs answer a question in your category, they’re drawing overwhelmingly on non-paid, third party sources. If your spokespeople, experts, case studies and proof points aren’t in those sources, you’re invisible at a key moment in the buyer journey." 

Francesca
Moves

Francesca Talevski moves into education sector with senior comms role

Francesca Talevski has been welcomed at Keypath Education as Senior Manager, Communications & Brand. She has wrapped up close to a decade at Vanguard Australia, most recently as Senior Public Relations Specialist.  

Rhiannon
Moves

Rhiannon Hughes takes up Vivid Sydney contract

Rhiannon Hughes has started as PR Manager for Vivid Sydney at Destination NSW. She was previously at TEAM LEWIS as Campaign Director.

Rhiannon also holds experience at Employsure, Sling & Stone AU / NZ, and Porter Novelli New Zealand.