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Telum Talks To: Celia Harding, Founder of LEOPRD

Fuelled by bold ideas, big ambitions and tight budgets, startups and scaleups don't typically leap at the idea of investing in PR - often believing the timing isn't quite "right". However, PR remains one of the most cost-effective ways to gain traction without a big budget. In a world where the media landscape moves at a rapid pace, is there ever really a "perfect" time to start?

Telum spoke with Celia Harding, Founder of LEOPRD, a Language Engine Optimisation (LEO) PR consultancy that builds fame, findability and authority in the age of AI. Having worked extensively across the startup and scaleup space, Celia shares her perspective on when and how founders should approach PR, how to break into established markets, and what it takes to move beyond momentary hype to build lasting brand relevance.

Is there a "chicken and egg" dynamic when it comes to startups and PR - do they need to grow and become established before investing in PR, or is growth actually driven by making noise early on?
Founders often think they need to 'earn the right to do PR' - waiting for more followers, more traction and more funding, but the reality is the media cares more about people doing new and interesting things rather than the number of followers they've got. Startups are born out of a vision to solve an existing problem or because there is a gap in the market for what they do. You don't get attention because you're big, you scale because you earned attention early.

While every startup has their sights firmly set on a story in the Australian Financial Review, there are plenty of other media outlets out there too - some of which might be more relevant to their target audience. Startups often need to consider other PR opportunities beyond traditional media, including industry engagement, speaking gigs, reviews and the potential personal branding opportunities for the team.

What frustrates me most is when I see bootstrapped founders investing in paid ads before putting themselves forward for earned media opportunities, missing out on simple ways to drive credibility and awareness to a larger audience more cost effectively.

You work with both startups and scaleups - how different are their needs, and how does this affect the way they approach PR strategy?
Often they have similar goals - credibility, visibility, relevance. Startups want to show they are a player, while scaleups want to show they are a category leader.

After scrappy beginnings, there comes a point when both startups and scaleups have their roadmap nailed and want to give things a bigger push (normally around four years in). They realise they didn't do enough around their initial launch and now want more people to know who they are and what they do - either ahead of a fundraising round, new product launch or when competitors have been making noise and they've been too quiet.

It's relatively hard for startups to break into an established market with harsh competition. What would their priorities be with PR, and what are some core things they should focus on?
Be super focused - clarity kills noise. Know their edge. Know who cares. And know how to sum up what they do in one sentence. Beyond that, every founder should be mining their team, product and data for earned media stories - be it founder backstory, usage trends, customer wins, or cultural relevance.

In the age of AI, PR is no longer just about humans. It’s about machines finding you, too. As people move away from Google and use large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT to research and make purchasing decisions, brands need to ensure they are part of the recommendations they provide, otherwise they risk being erased from the conversation entirely.

What they need to understand is that these models care more about what other people say about you, than what you say yourself - with earned media driving over 62 per cent of LLM responses. Meanwhile, Meta ad content isn't being scraped or cited.

Some startups gain short-term hype during their initial phase and struggle to capitalise on the attention. How can PR help ensure long-term success rather than momentary hype?
One splashy headline doesn't build authority. Startups need an always-on press office mindset, think about industry commentary, campaigns and category signals to build trust and credibility. You can't be a one-hit wonder and expect to win long-term. Consistency for the win.

With LLMs focusing on recency for their recommendations, this is more important than ever.

You've helped out various startups and scaleups across different industries. Which sector has been the most challenging and why?
We are deliberately industry agnostic - it keeps our thinking fresh and enables us to ask the simple questions others overlook, which usually leads to the smartest angles. Some industries are harder than others - but if they've found a customer base, we'll find ways to reach them.
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AI’s integration into PR and comms in 2025

Over the past few years, mentions of AI within the industry haven't toned down - if anything, they've been ramping up. Looking back at Telum's 2024 Year Ahead and PR Tech in 2025 pieces, it's interesting to see how attitudes have shifted. What began as a period of experimentation - playing with prompts, dabbling in ideation, and speculating about job replacement - has solidified into a structural transformation within the profession.

AI has moved from a nice-to-have to a non-negotiable; from a fringe tool to a core strategic capability. 2025 is the year PR and comms practitioners stopped asking, “What can AI do?” and began asking, "How do we lead with it?”.

Integration of AI tools in the industry
Early adoption of AI centred around basic prompting and inspiration. In 2025, however, practitioners in the PR and comms space have unlocked more of its capabilities.

We saw many organisations develop their own AI offerings across APAC and the Middle East, ranging from AI visibility services and training tools to crisis solutions. These include PIABO GEO, Ogilvy ANZ’s Generative Impact, Golin’s First Answer, TEAM LEWIS' Training for Trust, and FINN Partners' CANARY FOR CRISIS.

The narrative around job replacement has also softened. Rather than replacing humans, the industry is now embracing AI as an enhancer.

As Natacha Clarac, Director General of Athenora Consulting in Brussels and former President of PRGN, said following PRGN's launch of Précis Public Relations: "The introduction of Précis Public Relations showcases the potential of AI to enhance rather than replace the strategic value PR professionals offer."

GEO / LEO and search transformation
One trend that we have seen in 2025 was the decline of traditional search behaviour. AI assistants, such as ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity, increasingly replaced clicks with instant answers.

As Nichole Provatas, Executive Vice President and APAC Head of Integrated Marketing and Innovation at WE Communications, noted: "Around 69 per cent of Google news searches now end in zero clicks as AI Overviews rise."

This reality raises the stakes for inclusion in AI answers, as Rob van Alphen, Managing Director of Polaris Digital, warned: “…if your brand or leadership isn’t part of the AI answer, you’re invisible.”

Jack Barbour, EVP and AI Lead at Golin New York, and Nichole both highlighted how earned media is key in making brands discoverable, with at least 90 per cent of AI search results coming from earned citations. Brian Buchwald, Edelman’s President, Global Transformation and Performance, emphasised the same point: "You can't buy your way to the top of an AI-generated answer...brands must proactively shape how they appear in LLM outputs or risk being misrepresented, misunderstood, or missed entirely."

AI platforms are relying on reputable journalism, corporate blogs, and expert commentaries - flipping the paid-dominated marketing playbook on its head.

This shift fuelled the rise of GEO (Generative Engine Optimisation) and LEO (Language Engine Optimisation). In April, Celia Harding launched what she described as the world’s first LEO advisory firm, arguing: "While other agencies are looking at how AI can drive efficiencies in creativity and client service, they are all overlooking the real opportunity that lies ahead - shaping the data LLMs learn from."

If SEO defined the 2010s, GEO and LEO are shaping 2025 and beyond, with earned media at the core.

AI upskilling
As AI adoption surged throughout the year, professional development opportunities expanded rapidly, ranging from hands-on workshops and panel discussions to large-scale conferences.

These events spanned the region, including the Generative AI Bootcamp series by PRCA APAC and Sequencr AI, PRCA Thailand's first-ever conference in Bangkok on AI and communications, and Jakarta's “Shape the Future of Your Communications Strategy with AI” workshop hosted by ACE, APPRI and Reputasia Strategic Communications.

Telum Media also hosted its own list of AI-focused events, including workshops with Shaun Davies in Sydney and Melbourne, a workshop with Rob Van Alphen in Singapore, a global webinar with Matt Collette, collaborations with the Kennedy Foundation for panels on AI and journalism in Australia, and joint sessions with SOPA on ethical AI use in publishing in Singapore and Hong Kong.

The scale of these events showed one thing - these sessions were no longer “optional extras”, they've become essential for teams wanting to keep pace with AI's evolution across the industry.

Human and ethical considerations
As AI adoption rose, so did the reminders that human oversight remains essential. Practitioners repeatedly stressed that AI cannot replace human judgement, empathy, or lived experience.

As Matt Cram, Head of Media and Communications at Orygen, put it: "AI can’t replace the way people connect through empathy, creativity, and lived experiences."

Rob van Alphen reinforced this: "…we must double down on our inherently human strengths, such as empathy, curiosity, ethical decision-making, and critical thinking."

And Zeno’s Head of Regional Business Development, Asia, Ekta Thomas, said: "People connect with people - not algorithms."

These sentiments were reinforced across industry events focused on responsible AI use. At the Jakarta workshop, Reputasia Co-Founder and Communications Strategist, Fardila Astari, emphasised the importance of ethical guidelines for AI use, noting that careless application can create reputational risks, as seen in cases where major companies faced credibility issues due to AI-generated inaccuracies.

Similar points were made at Telum Media and SOPA's sessions in Singapore and Hong Kong, where newsroom leaders stressed the importance of maintaining editorial oversight, transparent disclosure, and strong governance structures. The consensus is that while AI may accelerate workflows, humans safeguard credibility.

2026 and beyond
As we approach the new year, AI is shifting from experimental to foundational. Nichole Provatas urges teams to "publish for AI inclusion," treating owned channels as structured, plain-language reference hubs built for machine ingestion.

But the landscape is still evolving, as Matt Cram cautions: "AI doesn’t just surface information, it consumes it…and the best strategies today might look very different tomorrow." For communicators, adaptability becomes the differentiator.

Ultimately, the future isn't AI-led but AI-enabled. As Matt Collette notes, "Human + AI is the new paradigm." Success will come from pairing AI's scale and precision with the empathy, judgement, and contextual understanding only humans can bring.

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Burson has named HS Chung as CEO, Asia Pacific, effective 1st December 2025. 

HS has been leading the agency’s business in North Asia Pacific across Mainland China, Hong Kong, Japan, and South Korea, and will now oversee the entire APAC region, including Australia, New Zealand, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand. She remains based in Seoul for the appointment.

“HS has a combination of superpowers that make her very well-suited to lead the entire region,” said Corey duBrowa, Global CEO, Burson. “She is a trusted and sought after CEO and C-suite advisor, a business builder, a talent advocate and an operational maven. These skills, together with her deep understanding of the cultural nuances across and between the markets, will enable Burson to continue delivering exceptional results for our clients and further build on our strong foundation across our Asia-Pacific footprint.”

HS has counselled C-suites from blue-chip multinational organisations across the F&B, electronics, personal care, automotive, and healthcare industries. She also spearheads specialised service offerings for the Korean government and has been involved in government projects, including the Olympics. Prior to Burson, HS founded Synergy Communications in 2000, which became part of Hill & Knowlton in 2002. She previously served as President, Asia at Hill & Knowlton.

“It’s an honor to lead the Asia Pacific region as CEO,” HS remarked. “We have strong momentum across the business and will continue to turn it into results through disciplined focus and execution.

“As our clients navigate unprecedented complexity, we are using our comprehensive AI capabilities and our exceptional talent bench to help businesses make decisions with clarity so they can succeed today and in the future. With Asia-Pacific continuing to grow and shape the global economy, I’m excited to help our clients and teams seize the opportunities that lie ahead.”

Additionally, Adrian Warr, who had been leading South Asia Pacific for Burson, is leaving the region to return to the UK and will depart the business as of 30th November 2025.

Corey said, “I’d like to extend my thanks to Adrian for his contributions to Burson during his time with us, for his leadership in driving our business in South Asia Pacific and his partnership with HS and our leadership team. I wish him the very best in his future endeavors.”

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Sandpiper welcomes new Shanghai-based Director

The Sandpiper Group has appointed Estelle Xue as Director in Shanghai. In this new role, she is responsible for leading the office's growth in strategic communications, issues and crisis counsel, and reputation advisory for Chinese companies going global, as well as multinational and domestic clients navigating the Chinese business landscape.
This appointment also sees Estelle managing the office’s strategic development and senior client advisory capability advancement to support Sandpiper's expansion in Mainland China. Furthermore, she is to work closely with the firm's leadership and teams across Asia Pacific and the Middle East to build out the financial comms and special situations advisory offering.

With 15 years of media, law, and corp comms experience, Estelle has advised clients through market transitions, regulatory challenges, and corporate events. With experience working alongside senior executives across industries, she specialises in corporate communications, financial and transactional communications, restructurings, compliance matters, and crisis situations.

Emma Smith, Chief Executive Officer of Sandpiper, said, “Shanghai is an essential market for our clients, and Estelle brings a combination of strategic insight, financial communications experience, and crisis and issues expertise to accelerate the development of our team and capabilities on the ground. Her leadership will be central to strengthening our presence in mainland China and enhancing the support we provide across our regional network.”

On her appointment, Estelle commented, “I am excited to join Sandpiper at a time of such strong momentum across the region. Businesses are facing unprecedented opportunities and challenges, requiring trusted advisors with both a global perspective and deep local knowledge. I look forward to partnering with our talented team to further expand our Shanghai presence and support clients as they manage reputation, risk, and transformation.”